Plans Take Shape for 'Occupy Elk Grove'

Protestors plan a march Wednesday to the Laguna Blvd overpass on Highway 99.

Organizers held the First General Assembly of 'Occupy Elk Grove,' the city's entry into , Friday at . 

Eight people—joined by a handful of journalists—gathered on a muggy evening to discuss and plan for their first demonstration.  They chose a theme particularly symbolic to Elk Grove: "99% on Highway 99," a reference to the bulk of the U.S. population and the city's major transportation artery.  

The march will begin at on Wednesday, Oct. 19 at 5 p.m.  From there, demonstrators plan to make their way with signs and banners to the Laguna Blvd overpass of Highway 99.

“We want into the conversation,” said Gretel Elving, who attended the meeting with her husband, Todd, and twin babies.  “We’re tired of Wall Street representing the one percent when we’re the 99 percent and we haven’t been heard.”

A major concern expressed at the meeting was the high rate of home foreclosures in Elk Grove and the nation.

Elk Grove joins hundreds of cities around the country where demonstrators have held rallies and campouts in recent weeks to protest the concentration of wealth and income among the upper echelons of the population.

Todd Elving, who started the 'Occupy Elk Grove' Facebook page, said he wasn't aware of any organized groups supporting the protest. He had never met any of the other participants until Friday's meeting, he said.

"I just opened up a Facebook page, and people started saying they wanted to do something," he said.

Organizers say they are contacting police to see if they need a permit for Wednesday's protest. Anyone interested in joining the march can go to the event's Facebook page for further information.

Marta October 18, 2011 at 05:44 PM
@Bwood, I am grateful for what I have and that does not takes away from caring about what is happened to our country and our economy. What affects our neighbors, our country, our people affects us all.
Bwood October 18, 2011 at 05:52 PM
Marta, what Lundgren is doing really doesn't belong on a thread about the 'Occupy Elk Grove' movement. Why don't you start a separate thread about Lundgren?
Bwood October 18, 2011 at 05:56 PM
Thanks for the tip, M. Might be something for you to do to pass the time - AFTER you've finished checking your investment portfolio, of course… BTW, any links to these Craigslist or any other ads for paid 'Occupy' protesters?
Mario October 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Here is my bio: Business 1- gay bar/restaurant in Guadalajara Business 2- bed and breakfast in Guadalajara Business 3- Taqueria in Zamora All of the above are in Mexico, all 3 of the above serve food , therefore the 3 restaurants. My gay bar is a bar/dining combo, you can eat on one side and dance and watch videos and get drunk on the other side. Roach Coach business in the U.S. I read your posts on Patch, either you like stirring things up or you are angry inside, i kind of like it, it makes for good reading.
Mario October 19, 2011 at 11:52 AM
A living wage means they make the money that they agree to make when they are hired. My daughter in college living wage is different than a mother with four children living wage so I am not sure how to define "living wage" I do not force them to work with me, it is their choice. I am pretty sure they wouldnt want me to share their pay structure with you, since its none of your business just like its none of our business how much money you make. I will tell you that everyone is started at $12 an hour if they are working prep, if you are driving the roach coach you start at $21/hr. ( this is for my US team members, in Mexico the pay scale is per day not per hour). The drivers are also paid a commission scale based on what they sell, that encourages them to hit up the area's where they know people will spend more money and also to be as friendly as possible. If they can do better somewhere else then obviously they can go do whatever they want.
Mark Paxson October 19, 2011 at 01:06 PM
Mario ... your initial response "A living wage means they make the money that they agree to make when they are hired." utterly fails at meeting the definition of what a living wage is. So, if I agree to work at McDonald's at $9.00 an hour, that's a living wage? No, not really. That being said, based on what you describe later, $12 an hour and $21 an hour, you're paying a lot better than I expected.
Mark Paxson October 19, 2011 at 01:12 PM
M. Legison ... I'm with Bwood ... care to share any actual links from Craigslist. I just scanned Modesto Craiglist and found nothing other than a call for volunteers for a protest. Nothing anywhere about paid protests. Looking forward to your ignoring yet another request to pack up your baseless allegations with actual fact.
M.Legison October 19, 2011 at 02:30 PM
http://modesto.craigslist.org/lab/2645386169.html $9 per hour + bonuses.
Bwood October 19, 2011 at 03:34 PM
M. Legison, this ad, (besides being 8 days old now,) is for flyer distributors, NOT actual protesters or demonstrators. I'm curious as to how you discovered this ad, as it is essentially the blog of an adult radio talk show host and not exactly the most likely place I would expect to find political activists furtively investigating.
Bwood October 19, 2011 at 03:41 PM
"A living wage means they make the money that they agree to make when they are hired. My daughter in college living wage is different than a mother with four children living wage so I am not sure how to define "living wage"" C'mon, Mario. You're a businessman. "Living wage" to you is something entirely different than it is to the employee. To you, it's whatever you feel like paying, to the employee, it is the minimum they need to live on.
M.Legison October 19, 2011 at 04:53 PM
@BWood--it's a solicitation job, as I said previously. Discover Google search. It really works! MoveOn.org peppered Craigslist with hundreds of paid protestor positions during the 2009 town halls. Perhaps some of these related current openings would be of interest. http://100kjobfinder.jobamatic.com/a/jobs/find-jobs/q-Moveon.org The path to a living wage is by eliminating the minimum wage. Productive employees then can bid their value. I think to those that believe in the "living wage" concept, it's defined as "more than I'm getting" which is probably more accurately "more than I'm worth in the current job market." If you can bring value to the table, you will receive pay commensurate with that value.
Bwood October 19, 2011 at 05:17 PM
" If you can bring value to the table, you will receive pay commensurate with that value." Thanks, M., but personally I have NEVER found that to be true. One other thing, since you have previously stated here that you are essentially not searching for a job, then why are you poking about on these websites?
M.Legison October 19, 2011 at 05:49 PM
I don't want to be a politician either but I search those too. I always like to see what the other side is doing. You must be a public employee, BW, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Bwood October 19, 2011 at 06:34 PM
Farthest thing from a public employee you could possibly imagine. Oh well, I was probably just as far off thinking you got most of your daily enlightenment from Faux News … NOT!
Think Free October 19, 2011 at 06:51 PM
Well well well See this Occupy movement is working. It has you all discussing issues that were are still are being ignored by the people in power. See the people that make money off of the division in our country are the top 1 percent. They contribute huge sums of money to the political campaigns to fund their issues. Who would have thought that people would say we are paying for protesters? Damn please let me know who is paying. Sure there are people donating food, gas electricity to the Cesar Chavez movement, but if you have been down there there are also churches feeding the homeless. No if you distort the truth, it doesnt make it the truth. All of your distortions, threats, name calling, etc. You know that is just making people more determined. Quit complaining about the people volunteering their time to try to keep this conversation going for change, please dont focus on the knuckleheads, every group has those. I mean look at the person who threatened to run us over. Who cares what you do or dont do to feed your family. Focus on the people that are DOING
Think Free October 19, 2011 at 06:55 PM
One more thing before I get out of the middle of this wrestling match. Yesterday I saw an Article from "The Bloomberg Report" It was breaking news about Bank Of America after their credit rating dropped from AAA to AA, they transfered their most volatile under rated accounts to the AAA accounts. These are guaranteed by The Government. Billions of dollars. Anyone know anything about this? wont this destroy our country?
Bwood October 19, 2011 at 07:09 PM
Thank you Todd, for our political science lesson for today, but I for one, don't need it. I already support the "Occupy" movement and it's accompanying philosophy...
Think Free October 19, 2011 at 07:25 PM
Good, Bwood. I would really like you to join us today. Shake your hand etc.
Think Free October 19, 2011 at 07:26 PM
Otherwise have a great day!!
Marta October 19, 2011 at 07:28 PM
I had no idea that this was about protestors at protests getting paid! I would have handled it differently. I am not looking for a job. I am just a concerned citizen.
Think Free October 19, 2011 at 07:33 PM
I am really lost now. Someone please help me back. What are we talking about? Occupy or Move on?
Bwood October 19, 2011 at 07:56 PM
Occupy. Stay focused, Todd ...
Mario October 19, 2011 at 08:17 PM
Bwood, you have obviously never been a business owner, You seem to think we roll in money. I make my money after the bills are paid, payroll, taxes, expenses, I get what is left, sometimes its good sometimes its not so good. Most small business owners do not get regular paychecks, our pay is in the profit, which we deserve because we front the money to build the business, we have sleepness nights worrying about costs,repairs, taxes, payroll, etc. Nobody can define a living wage, I clearly stated that in my post. I think you just post ridiculous stuff to make people react and respond, and you do a great job at that so keep it up, the banter is fun. Now I must drive my convertable jaguar down to Mortons for lunch with my man, after that i think we will go drop a few thousand dollars at Macys on some really trendy clothing before hitting PF Changs up for a mid afternoon martini, i mean gosh, you know how us bad business people are.
Mario October 19, 2011 at 08:30 PM
You are absolutely correct, that is why i stated "so I am not sure how to define "living wage" We all have different idea's of what we need to live on, everyones needs are different. I used the word needs because i imagine alot of people believe a living wage would mean cable, internet, cell phone, drinking money, etc, shoot, i have a son who thinks weed is a need, those are not needs , food, clothing, shelter, health care, those are needs....in my opinion. While $9 an hour is not much it is enough to live on if neccessary.
Bwood October 19, 2011 at 10:30 PM
"While $9 an hour is not much it is enough to live on if necessary." Maybe in Mexico, Mario, but try renting or even qualifying for a place in EG on $9hr. Now if you're still having "sleepless nights, there's one you can sleep on...
Mario October 19, 2011 at 10:43 PM
BW, dont confuse living wage with living desires, you can rent a room in Elk Grove for $350 a month and it even includes a pool ( http://sacramento.craigslist.org/search/roo?query=elk+grove&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=), if your working 40 hours that gives you money for food etc. Dang i didnt even have to sleep on that one to figure it out, try thinking outside the box .
Think Free October 19, 2011 at 10:46 PM
You guys are funny
Bwood October 20, 2011 at 12:59 AM
The single room idea sounds like you are thinking more inside the box than I am. Mario, that's fine if you're a single guy that already owns his own reliable transportation, has no healthcare issues, no afflictions or addictions, and no other major cost-of-living bills, and can make the security deposit+cleaning deposit+first+last rent just to move in. I guess that's about it, however, one size does not fit all. Do all your employees fall into that category? If I was married w/children, that one empty room wouldn't be looking too good. Is it doable? Maybe, but how long would you want to live like that? I'm about done with this debate now, because it's never-ending, and I think we've hijacked this thread long enough. What say we just agree to disagree, and move on ….?
Elk Grove Laguna Forums October 20, 2011 at 02:19 AM
Bwood, if you were on here at 6 pm. I guess you weren't at the occupy event tonight?
Bwood October 20, 2011 at 02:12 PM
I didn't get the memo … Were YOU there?


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